Saturday, January 12, 2013


Gun Advocates Resort To Lies About Hitler To Push Their Agenda

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There is an old law on the internet. It was coined by Mike Godwin in 1990:
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In short, in a heated argument, eventually someone will bring up the Nazi’s, Hitler, etc, and the moment they do, the argument is over because the side that does it has just lost it. This is because, no matter how bad the other side is, nothing can compare to the systematic, methodical and calculated genocide perpetrated by the Nazi’s in their goals for racial purity.
Absolutely nothing.
So, it was amusing when the Drudge Report posted this headline earlier this week:

Note the not-so-subtle attempt to compare firearm regulation with Nazi Germany and Joseph Stalin. In addition, there is a quote going around the right-wing blogosphere being attributed to Hitler:
This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!
This is of course complete bunk. Hitler never said such a thing. Germany had enacted tough gun control laws in 1928, years before the Nazi rise to power. Instead of banning guns, Hitler insteadexpanded gun ownership for German citizens (he’d stripped the citizenship of undesirables already) to levels which one cannot even get inside of the United States. The 1938 German Weapons Act actually relaxed all gun ownership restrictions save on pistols. A German citizen could own a fully automatic weapon complete with grenade launcher, legally, under Nazi control.

Why was Hitler comfortable doing this, when all common wisdom is that dictators eliminate gun ownership? Because Hitler ruled from a popular standpoint. He had little to fear from German Citizens, and for those who would stand against him, he made sure to strip away their citizenship, therefore their rights to firearms. This left him with a well armed nation who worshiped the ground he walked on. This is one of the reasons why the closing days of World War II were so bloody. The majority of German citizens, however, were untrained, so ineffective on the battlefield against the well trained Allied forces.
Hitler did discuss gun confiscation in 1942, but not against his own citizens, but against the people who he had conquered:
The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.
Indeed I would go so far as to say that the underdog is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order.
Everything in it has to do with the fact he conquered them, and they were subject races, little better than slaves.
As for the gun control discussion in the United States, Obama has not discussed eliminating gun ownership. To the contrary, his policies so far have expanded gun ownership opportunities for law abiding US citizens. What is being discussed instead are restrictions on gun manufacturers and importers. The Assault Weapons Ban passed under President Clinton was just that, a regulation on the manufacture of weapons, not on ownership. The problem is, the gun manufacturers lobby, through their front group, the National Rifle Association, the gun manufacturers paint any form of restriction of the manufacture of weapons, any form of weapon, as something unpatriotic, an attempt to eliminate freedom, to enact a police state, and, as Drudge here did, the first step before the rounding up of people into FEMA camps and wholesale extermination of “pure blooded Americans” as one commentator put it.
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Godwin’s law is still in effect, and by throwing the Nazi argument, gun advocates have lost the fight.

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JOHN STEWRT: THE HOUSE GOP FUCKIN DID WHT?

GUN LUNATIC CONTEMPLATES KILLING PEOPLE IF GUN CONTROL MOVES


Gun Company CEO Hints At Assassinating Obama – ‘Murder’ May Be Necessary (VIDEO) 

James Yeager of Tactical Response and star of incendiary video.
James Yeager of Tactical Response and star of incendiary video.
James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response in Camden, Tennessee, has gotten himself into a bit of hot water – and unwittingly made a very strong case FOR gun control.
Yeager, whose bio says he has taught “thousands” to be “successful in lethal force confrontations,” publicly posted a video yesterday insinuating threats against President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, and any number of others, should one single restriction be placed on gun control.
Referring to Biden’s upcoming recommendations on gun control measures following the Sandy Hook shooting, Yeager falsely claims that Obama is going to issue executive orders to ban assault rifles (retroactively, apparently), and has this to say about it (See the NSFW video):
TRANSCRIPT:
F—k that. I tell you, if that happens it’s going to spark a civil war and I’ll be glad to fire the first shot. I am not putting up with it, you shouldn’t put up with it. I need all you patriots to start thinking about what you’re going to do, load your damn mags, make sure your rifle’s clean, pack a backpack with some damn food in it, and get ready to fight.

 I’m not f–king putting up with this. I am not letting my country be ruled by a dictator. I’m not letting anybody take my guns. If it goes one inch further, I am going to start killing people.
Let’s take a moment to dissect:
  • No American ever threatens to kill the President of the United States.
  • This guy thinks a “civil war” will happen if any gun control passes. Abraham Lincoln was President during the last civil war, and he was assassinated with a gun. Who is Yeager going to “fire the first shot” at – random people or Obama – the man Yeager fears will unilaterally take away his guns? That’s a question Secret Service agents should be asking him right about now.
  • He’s actually telling people to load their weapons and get ready to fight – literally. In the follow-up video (below), he makes clear he’s not kidding.
  • He makes a direct reference to “not letting my country be ruled by a dictator” right before saying “I am going to start killing people.”
  • Civil war, loaded weapons, dictator, firing shots, killing people – how much more clear could Yeager be about what he’s planning to do?!
Then, there’s the rather unapologetic follow-up video released today, where Yeager announces he edited the part of the first video where he threatens murder (full version above courtesy of Crooks and Liars). He also says: “I don’t retract any of my statements.”
Yeager then rips into people who criticized him in the last 24 hours, calling his first video a “disservice to the gun community” (see video; also NSFW):
TRANSCRIPT:
F—k you. Our country wasn’t founded by f—king fair-weather pu—ies. Either you’re in or you’re out…If you’re not prepared to go all the way [assassination?], then you’re not prepared to go anywhere.
I don’t condone anybody doing anything rash. I do not condone anybody committing any kind of felonies, up to and including aggravated assaults or murders, unless it’s necessary…You have no idea how many people that sent me emails and texts and called me and said “Right on, my sh-t’s clean, my bag’s packed, you tell me when and where.” You have no idea how quickly I accidentally assembled an army – I assure you, a quite formidable army. But now’s not the time, it’s not time yet. It is time to get ready – start working out, start stretching, start practicing.
No, Yeager’s not advocating “murder” – not unless it’s “necessary.” After seeing this rant, are you leaning more toward stricter gun control? I certainly don’t want this volatile dude to carry out plans to kill people, armed with assault rifles complete with extra magazine attachment (photo is from his public Facebook profile — lovely tattoos):
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Obama could not – and is not planning to try to – retroactively ban assault rifles by executive order. There are at least two problems with that: first, Congress would need to pass the bill. Secondly, the bill Sen. Dianne Feinstein introduced would not make existing guns illegal – just the future sale.
Here’s what Obama could possibly do by executive order – without congressional approval, as reported by The Atlantic and The Washington Post:
  • Modernize the background check system, such as by incorporating more information, like a potential buyer’s history of mental illness
  • Have the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives share more information with state and local officials about gun purchases that could be illegal
  • Limit importation of assault rifles
  • Other unspecified changes to federal mental-health programs
These aren’t really the kind of things to go ballistic over.
James Yeager’s business, Tactical Response, trains “good people to kill bad people,” according to its Facebook page, and provides “the highest-end firearms and tactical training possible.” Yeager used to work as a private security contractor in Iraq and as a Firearms and Tactics Instructor and undercover narcotics sting assistant with the Camden, Tennessee Police Department.

Friday, November 23, 2012

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Radical Right Joins in Secession Frenzy

Posted in AntigovernmentExtremist PropagandaWhite Nationalism by Mark Potok on November 14, 2012

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Hundreds of thousands of disgruntled conservatives, still smarting from the re-election of President Obama last week, are signing petitions to allow more than 30 states to secede from the United States — and they are being joined by a motley collection of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and Klan sympathizers.
As of midday today, eight of the petitions, which are being posted on a government website set up to encourage citizen participation, have crossed the threshold of 25,000 signatures required to prompt a guaranteed official reply from the White House. (The states are Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas, the state with the most signers.) But the petitions carry no legal weight at all, and almost no one anywhere on the political spectrum expects them to result in anything more than a collective blowing off of right-wing steam.
Still, that hasn’t stopped the denizens of Stormfront, a huge white nationalist Web forum run by a former Alabama Klan leader, from enthusiastically embracing the cause. Starting last Saturday, a large number of comment threads began appearing on the site that encouraged the radical right to join in on the fun.
Of course, the discourse on the forum has that special Stormfront kind of feel — which is to say, the underlying concern of most participants there is how to create a country, or perhaps countries, that is all, or at least mostly, white.
“We would be better off using all of our strength to secede 80% white states,” wrote “MattwhiteAmerica” in one of more than a dozen threads discussing secession. “A state like Texas, LA, MISS, AL, CA etc are going to need a good old fashion [sic] war to remove the non-whites. …  I’m saying this as most non-whites are socialists and takers. We won’t get a good constitution without a solid white majority.”
“We need to form a WHITE republic,” MattwhiteAmerica added a little later. “One that is for whites by whites!”
Responded “Buffalo”: “I have a feeling a lot if not most of the coloreds would be more than willing to leave a state that actually seceded. I have a feeling they would be smart enough to know that it would be either leave on your own or your [sic] going to be removed by whatever means needed.”
One unexpected dissent came from “Britannic Nationalist,” a foreigner. “Either you’re a country or you’re not,” the poster wrote. “Either all the States should be completely independent, or they should all be a single country. … Will what is now the USA just turn into a land mass of warring factions, states and peoples?”
Most of those posting at Stormfront seemed to realize that they were engaging in a pipe dream. But a few had definite hopes. “Once the cumulative secession petition count exceeds one million then Obama will be very worried,” wrote “Disappointed American.” “One million pissed off armed Americans, coupled with the [antigovernment group] Oathkeepers 3%, can defeat the military. At 2 million signatures, it’s basically a certainty at least one state will secede.”
Well, maybe. Of course, if that’s true, it’s just as likely that some of the other petitions at the government’s We the People website will eventually win their causes, too — causes like “Not Allow The FDA To Regulate Premium Cigars,” “outlaw offending prophets of major religions,” “Restore Fairness And Objectivity To Our Media,” and even “Peacefully grant the city of Austin Texas to withdraw from the state of Texas & remain part of the United States.”
And then there were two direct responses to the secession petitions: “Force all states to pay their portion of the national debt before they can secede from the union” and “Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them.” Which is just the kind of thing Stormfronters might actually like.

Kentucky Rep. Tom Riner: THEOCRATIC FUCKTARD!


ITS THE AMERICAN TALIBAN POLITICS, OF THE CHRISTIAN SHARIA!

Kentucky Rep. Tom Riner Likes Forcing Citizens to Make Declaration to 'Almighty God'

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The Kentucky state legislature passed a controversial homeland security law in 2006 that mandates its citizens to recognize safety cannot be achieved without the Almighty God — or face up to a year in prison.
American Atheists now wants to the U.S. Supreme Court to rule on the law.

State representative and Baptist minister Tom Riner sponsored the law, which has been a subject of debate since it passed. The Kentucky state Supreme Court, however, refuses to evaluate its constitutionality. 
Edwin Kagin, legal director of American Atheists, has been challenging the court's lack of action since 2008.

“This is one of the most egregiously and breathtakingly unconstitutional actions by a state legislature that I’ve ever seen,” Kagin said.

American Atheists is a national organization that fights for the civil liberties of atheists and “the total, absolute separation of government and religion,” according to its website. The organization won a lawsuit against the law in 2008 at the Circuit Court level, but that decision was overturned by the state Court of Appeals.

“The church-state divide is not a line I see,” Riner told The New York TimesRiner contends that his devotion to his faith takes precedence when it conflicts with his job as a state representative even when -- critics argue -- it infringes on other’s rights.

The law states, “The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God as set forth in the public speeches and proclamations of American Presidents, including Abraham Lincoln’s historic March 30, 1863, presidential proclamation urging Americans to pray and fast during one of the most dangerous hours in American history, and the text of President John F. Kennedy's November 22, 1963, national security speech which concluded: ‘For as was written long ago: Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.’”

The law also requires plaques declaring the power of the Almighty God be installed outside of the state’s Homeland Security building. The plaque’s inscription begins, “The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God.”

THESE THEOCRATS HAVE HEADS LIKE LEAKY DIAPERS!